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Larry Gordon’s Vietnam Service

Where Courage Met Compassion

By Marie Hughes


  

As I have stated before, we, who have never been to war, cannot possibly understand the atrocities of it and the depth of depravity of the human heart. We cannot know the deep scars that penetrate the very soul of the veterans who have witnessed these atrocities firsthand.

 

Unlike WWI and WWII, the veterans of the Vietnam War returned home to a completely different reception than the heroes before them. Rather than being received with parades of honor and accolades from a grateful nation many were received with utter indifference. How difficult it must have been for these warriors who risked life and limb to serve their country under the direction of their Commanders to have most of their fellow Americans treat their service as irrelevant. Larry Gordon of Oak Island, Texas, did not experience this indifference for the most part, perhaps because he was there to save lives not take them. The following is his story.

Hospital Corps Graduation ~ 1963 Larry Gordon, Back Row 4th

Duty Calls . . . Real Men Rise

  

“I graduated in 1962 and once I turned 18, I joined the Navy and became a hospital corpsman.” said Vietnam Veteran Larry Gordon, of Oak Island, Texas.  “I went to basic training in Great Lakes Hospital Corps School in Great Lakes, Illinois, and I was regular Navy.  From there I was sent to Guam to the Naval Hospital in the Mariana Islands.  I was a surgical corpsman in the Naval hospital in Guam, and I spent eighteen months there, then I volunteered for FMF which is Fleet Marine Force.  The Marine Corps doesn’t have medical staff, so they use Navy medical personnel.  I left Guam in March of 1965 and went home on a 30-day leave before going to Camp Pendleton in California.  At Camp Pendleton I attended field medical school which is the Marine Corps side of the Navy.  I was already a field medical corpsman; the training at Camp Pendleton was, more or less, training for hands-on battlefield procedures.  We wore a Marine Corps uniform with Navy insignias and went through some basic Marine Corps training.  All the Marine medical personnel are Navy. As a Navy guy I was always with the hospital or the Marine Corps. If I remember correctly, we trained there for twelve weeks.  I was attached to the First Marine Division, Special Landing Force.” said Larry.  The Special Landing Force during the Vietnam War was designed for amphibious assaults and rapid deployment in combat situations.  The 1st Marine Division, also known as 1st MARDIV, is the oldest and largest active-duty division in the United States Marine Corps. It was founded on February 1, 1941, and is headquartered at Marine Corps Base Camp Pendleton, California. 

Wet Feet Were Misery . . . Dry Feet Were Mercy

  

Photo Source ~ Vietnam ~ A Visual Encyclopedia

  

“Our deployment when we first got there was in the Mekong Delta which was at the southern tip of Vietnam. Delta explains itself; the area consisted of a lot of water. It was hot in Vietnam even in the winter and you were always wading through water. If you didn’t have dry socks on patrol after about three days you got immersion foot, or trench foot . . . foot rot as we called it.   You suffer with that for a long time if you ever get it. It’s kind of like a case of athlete’s foot for the rest of your life. Keeping your feet dry was the main thing when you were out on patrol. I made step for step with the Marines and carried a .45. I carried battle dressings in the blouse of my greens. In my boots I carried morphine syrettes to help ease pain. They talk about drugs being bad in Vietnam but it was not like that when I was there. If you could get a bottle of bootleg whiskey from Chu Lai you were doing good. Drugs got more prevalent I think because of the discord of the war. It worked on those guys over there and I think that’s what started the drug use. I carried everything in my blouse or top of my jungle boots, in my pants down my legs and we would carry sea rations in socks and tie them to the edge of our knap pack. I’d also carry things in the band of my helmet and of course, I’d carry my weapon. I didn’t like carrying a med case as that would identify me as a corpsman. They liked to target corpsmen and radio operators. They figured if they could put a corpsman out then there would be no one to help the wounded, and if they got the radio operator they could not communicate back. Dry socks were always a big deal because you were in wet conditions wading through water most of the time. When we took a break or got to where we would camp we would take our boots and socks off and try to dry them as best we could and put on dry socks. The boots never did dry properly though but you did the best you could do in the conditions you were in. When we first landed we were wearing FLAC jackets; they were not bulletproof but they would help deflect a bullet. It was so hot that we lost a lot of guys that first day with heat exhaustion, they were just falling out. We finally did away with the FLAC jackets as they were just so darn hot and none of us were used to that heat. We had stretchers at the command posts but if you were out on patrol you didn’t carry a stretcher. You used ponchos or whatever if needed."

First Landing . . . Anxious Hearts

  

“The night before we deployed, I was on the flight deck. The carrier we were on, The Princeton LPH-5, was an aircraft carrier during World War II and they converted it to a helicopter carrier. My first operation . . . first landing . . . which was called Jack Stay, you were scared because you were new. We were on the coast for a while then we made an assault landing in the Mekong Delta from the helicopter carrier we were on. I believe it was in April of ‘66. The assault landing was to open the canals for the transportation of troops and supplies from the Mekong up into Vietnam. We had squads that went out on reconnaissance. I was on like the second or third chopper in when we arrived, a Fire Team is what they called us, I believe there were six of us. You had a crew chief, a door gunner and the pilot as the chopper crew on the  UH-34 Sigorsky helicopter. They were older small helicopters, not really reliable. They were dome shaped and only held about eight or ten people at the most. They were practicing one time out in the ocean and we had a couple of them that just crashed and sunk, they’d had mechanical failure. We got the pilots out safely. What was really scary was that first morning. We were sitting out in the bay offshore on the helicopter carrier and we thought, we’re going to be going in and they’re going to be shooting at us. That morning was kind of hazy . . . foggy and we came out on deck to get on the choppers to leave and there were sampans, which were Vietnamese boats and any one of them could have had a radio and given our location. I thought, how secure is this! When we got ready to go in they came back from the first helicopter and they passed a note around that there was no resistance in the LZ (Landing Zone). And that lowered our temperature a lot. They passed notes because it was hard to hear,” explained Larry. “When you went into those spots, a lot of time the Viet Cong knew you were coming.".

Photo Source ~ US Navy National Museum

Fear Whispers . . . Training Answers

  

“In a hot LZ they’d be shooting at you when you came in. The anxiety in that first landing was quite an experience. I was on the second or third helicopter when we came into the LZ and that night we set up a perimeter. We were kind of relaxing and it just broke loose. Machine guns on the perimeter started opening up and there was a lot of commotion going on and you are absolutely petrified,” stated Larry emphatically. “If anybody tells you they weren’t scared I think they’re fibbing to you. I was absolutely petrified and I actually had doubts in my mind that I could do my job,” he confessed with abject honesty. “If one of the guys got hit, I had to go to him and fix him that was my job. I was laying on a stretcher talking to a Marine Sergeant when it all broke loose and rolled off and laid there with my face almost buried in the ground, keeping my head down. The Sergeant hollered, ‘Doc, get your helmet, get your helmet!’ I worried if someone hollered for a medic . . .  corpsman, could I do my job cause that’s what I signed up for. But after that first night, it’s not that you get used to it, but it’s not as bad. If you’re out on patrol and you get ambushed you can do what you need to do, your military training kicks in; these guys are depending on me to patch them up and that’s what I tried to do to the best of my ability. If I had to patch someone up I’d get them to the driest spot available and bandage them up, administer morphine, apply tourniquets, stop the bleeding, whatever it took to stabilize them. When the choppers came in the Marines carried the wounded to the chopper to be medivaced out, sometimes there was a corpsman on the chopper. I’ve seen chopper pilots abort a landing if the fire was too heavy, but some of the pilots were real gutty and would come in anyway. We always used to laugh at the fighter pilots. When the jets would come off the carriers we’d always watch them. If they nipped the tree tops we’d always judge whether they were married or single,” laughed Larry. “When they’d come in straight on the Mekong they’d fly so low that when they dived down and you’d watch the tree tops. If you saw them break any limbs, like chafe the top of the trees, you’d figure he was a single guy, if he didn’t he was married. That’s not true, but that was always the joke. The fear eases up a bit but later down the road when you get close to going home the anxiety goes back up again ‘cause you certainly don’t want to get hit when you are so close to going home. We called it Short Timer’s Syndrome,” clarified Larry. 

Learning the Cost of War

  Best friend of Larry’s who was KIA during their first mission  


“I had a good relationship with the Marine’s, they looked out for me and I looked out for them. Corpsmen were very popular with the Marines because we took care of them using life-saving techniques. I think we lost four or five men on our first operation. One corpsman and four marines were killed on our first or second day there. One was a very good friend of mine." 


“Before we left on the operation the corpsmen all sat around on the deck and held hands. We were all assigned to different companies, like Charlie Company and Bravo Company; you had senior corpsman, a platoon corpsman, a squad corpsman, and we all sat around holding hands and hoped when we returned from the operation there would be no missing links in that chain. Well, we had one when we came back from the first operation, Robert Pogre; he’s listed on the Vietnam memorial wall. He was a second class Navy petty officer and he was a good friend of mine,” said Larry sadly as he recalled the loss of his friend. Records reveal Bob, age 21 at the time of his death, was from San Francisco and was killed on the 29thof April 1966 in Thua Thien Province, Vietnam. “He was killed by an explosive device that was kind of hidden,” continued Larry. “They were on patrol and were watering up their canteens and there was evidently someone who set off the explosion and killed him and two of the other guys, and two more were killed that evening. When we landed that night I was with the command post when we set a perimeter up. All the marines of the operation were there. We got attacked the first night by mortars. If you’ve never been in something like that it’s kind of a rude awakening. You’re laying there hoping a mortar doesn’t land on you. It was kind of a hectic night but we made it through that.” 


“We were there fifteen to seventeen days on that first operation then they came and picked us up by helicopter once we finished the operation and we would move farther up the coast of Vietnam and make another assault landing. The operations were basically all the same, just different names. I don’t know how many deployments we made exactly, it’s been so long. We would be in there ten to fifteen days on each assault landing. We then landed in Chu Lai. The Navy Seabees built the base at Chu Lai and it was an all Marine base. Our showers were a 55-gallon drum with a can with holes in it. When you walked on the trail to where it was you always had to watch for snakes because they were everywhere. I was eventually assigned to the med-battalion, which was sort of a blessing because I didn’t have to go out on patrol anymore. When they would bring casualties in on the medical helicopters, we would treat them at the med battalion, sew them up, treat their wounds. I worked at the shock and debridement center. I did a lot of sewing, I sewed a lot of people up ‘cause the doctors didn’t have time. Some of the corpsmen were better than doctors at suturing people up and the doctors knew that. We had Navy surgeons there who would operate on them. It was kind of a field hospital like they had on MASH, if you’ve ever seen that show, although MASH was Army. Once I was stationed at the med-battalion in Chu Lai until I stayed there until I was discharged. When I left in October of ’66 it was still an all Marine Corp base, later it was turned over to the Army.”

Keeping Watch . . .

in the Space Between Loss and Farewell

  

“During the time I was still on patrol they came and got me one night and I went with a Force Recon team because their corpsman had gotten killed. Those Force Recon guys were tough! My buddy and I both volunteered to go but they took me because he was the senior corpsman. I was a 3rd class petty officer and he was a 2nd, so I guess they figured I was expendable,” chuckled Larry. “The Amtrac is a vehicle that can go in the water, it’s like an armored tank and when you’re in it you’re well protected, but once you get out you were a-foot. I went out there with a Marine Lieutenant and five Marines to get their point man, they didn’t know if he was dead or alive. The Amtrac has a red light in it, that’s one thing that stuck in my mind for some reason, and it’s almost like a tank. There was a bench in the middle and I put Ford, the point man there. He had gotten shot through the head and the side of his head was pretty much gone. I put battle dressing on his wounds but there was nothing I could do for him, he was already dead when we got there. I had him covered up so the Marines couldn’t see him and they were saying, ‘Doc, is he going to be alright is Ford going to be alright?’ and I just said, ‘we’ll see,’ I didn’t want to aggravate the situation. I couldn’t save him because he had been hit so bad. We got back to our post where we slept in half shelters; we put two of them together and they make a tent, a small one. I had to put Ford next to me in my half shelter, in a body bag that night, that memory kind of sticks. He was Lance Corporal Victor J. Ford, I know where his name is on the Vietnam Memorial wall.  That was the scariest operation I was on as there were only six of us, seven counting the Lieutenant. It was scary because other than the guy running the Amtrac we were just out there in the middle of the night.” 


“The other thing that bothered me was the kids. I had a young girl the Viet Cong had beaten. They flew her in on a chopper to the med-battalion at Chu Lai. We didn’t have any nurses there, just doctors, surgeons and corpsmen, at least at that med-battalion. I know a lot of them came in later like at Da Nang and the hospitals but out in the field we didn’t have them. The corpsmen were pretty much the nurses or medics and we did pretty much everything an RN would do. We went down with the ambulance to meet the chopper and pick up the wounded and that little girl was pretty much dead. That little girl, even though I’d been there seven months, that really bothered me. The Viet Cong thought her father was a sympathizer with the US forces so they beat her to death. When we brought her up to the med-battalion there was nothing we could do, I tried to perform CPR on her, but she was gone. The doctor looked at me and said, ‘Doc, go to your quarters and take a break,’ because he could tell the effect it had on me, even though I’d been there, seasoned you might say. Stuff like that sticks in your mind forever, you never forget that. At the med-battalion we’d get guys in with legs gone, arms gone, sometimes unrecognizable. It was a very traumatic experience in my life and I think it’s affected me a lot,” he confessed.

Hazards & Heros

  

“The Napalm, the white phosphorus grenades were a terrible, terrible thing because when the white phosphorus gets on you it doesn’t stop burning! It will burn through to the bones. I never got any on me but I treated men with it on them. Booby traps were a real problem. A lot of them were real crude and easy to spot and some of them were really hard to find. They had bungee stakes that they’d dip in feces, and all that, so that if a soldier would fall on them or step on them they’d get infections. But the booby traps, you’d hear something and watch them tripping a trip line; booby traps were a big deal. The Vietcong would hide in tunnels and pop up out of them. They had boys that went in those tunnels, “tunnel rats” they called them. They would actually go down in the tunnels and crawl through them, usually small guys ‘cause the Vietnamese were small so the tunnels were made for small, small people. The Army had them and the Marines, we also had some, we also had some Rok Marines which were South Korean Marines. We called them Roks, they were tough characters, very tough characters. We had some Vietnamese jungle mountain people called Montagnards. The tunnel rats would go in the tunnels, some of which were elaborate underground facilities. You really had to be something to do that job!” declared Larry. 


“I treated an Australian guy who was a forward observer; he was just out there by himself and got shot up. They brought him to the med-battalion and I asked him what he was doing out there by himself, I mean BY HIMSELF. He said he was calling in locations; he’d spy on people and report back to command. We treated a little bit of everybody, a lot of Army guys because they didn’t have an Army field hospital, Marines, Rok Marines, South Vietnamese, Cambodians. I actually treated a Marine from my hometown two times, Archie Armour, he ended up becoming a police officer and my sister’s neighbor. Agent Orange was a real problem. Where we set up our first operation there was no vegetation because they had sprayed Agent Orange, so the foliage was all pretty much gone. The idea was so the Viet Cong couldn’t hide in it, but they found out it was not good for our soldiers. Agent Orange is something we all suffered from. There was never diabetes in my family and I have type 2 diabetes and it’s related to Agent Orange. A lot of us are stilling living with health hazards from that war that linger on. I’m eighty-one years old and I still have certain problems,” Larry noted. 

Surviving Vietnam . . .

& Living With What it Took

  

“The hardest part of my job was the death and destruction,” noted Larry sadly. “not being able to save everybody, the loss of losing ‘em, but you can only do so much . . . what you’re trained to do. The hardest part afterwards was going to the Vietnam Wall, looking at the names and touching the names of the ones you know, that was hard for me. I’m very proud of my service but then after you learn about how it was done and was it worth it . . . probably not. But you had a job to do, you’re in the military, you took an oath, you do your job. I’m very proud of the fact that I did my job, I’m very proud of the Marines I served with, and I’m very proud of the Navy part of it," said Larry quietly . . . no bravado, just truth..

Returning Home

The War Was Loud . . . His Strength was Quiet

  

“The discord over Vietnam wasn’t as bad when I was there in ’66. But it increasingly got worse. People began running to Canada to dodge the draft, and there were protests, so we weren’t very popular when we came home. We didn’t get the accolades the World War II veterans got; we were looked at a little differently. There were people who appreciated us, I’m not saying there wasn’t, but there was also a lot of discord. I was just glad to get home, though I drank a lot at first. Adjusting back to my home town was not difficult ‘cause I still had a lot of friends. We lost a lot of my classmates in Vietnam, most of them Army, there were a couple Marines; in fact the first one from my class killed was a Marine. I came from a small town of about 18,000 people. The best thing I ever did was move to Texas. I went to Kuwait to work after I returned home. I was a paving superintendant and after I returned from Kuwait it was winter time and there was nothing going on, so I said I’m going south. I stopped in Tulsa and there was ice on my windshield the next day. I said not far enough south. It was just me and a friend of mine and we got to Houston in October of 1980, in fact Ronald Reagan was elected President the following month. I went to work with Harris County in the engineering department and retired from there in ’03. I was a plant inspector after that.  In 1999 I moved to Oak Island. I rented a house on the water for two years, then I bought it, so I’ve been around here for at least twenty-six years." 


“I don’t have nightmares like I used to have. As far as talking about it like we are now, for a long time you didn’t talk about it unless you were talking to another Vietnam vet. Someone who had been there and understood what you were talking about. Now, it’s more open and you can deal with it. Having a friend like Sam Glass is great, we can relate to each other. His service was a little different, he was Army and I was a corpsman, but we can relate to a lot of the same things." 

A Family Shaped by Military Service . . .

and Quiet Honor

  

“I don’t have any personal photos from my time in Vietnam; Hurricane Ike took all I had along with my house. The only photo from Vietnam to survive is a portrait of me in my Marine uniform painted by a Vietnamese guy from a village named Sam Hi in Chu Lai Province. I was going in there to get a haircut and he said he could paint my picture. It got a little damp during Ike but somehow it made it. I have a few Navy pictures from before I went to Vietnam.”


“I’m proud of my service in the military. My family is very military minded. My dad was a World War II vet, I had an uncle who served in Korea, A couple uncles who served in World War II, my son served in the Persian Gulf; he was in the Navy for about eight years, his two sons were Army vets. One of them served two tours in Iraq and the other served one tour in Afghanistan; James, who served the two tours is still in the Army. They had an article about him in Time Magazine. They were on patrol and taking a break and he was a private at the time. The article read Private James Gordon . . . taking a break after a search and destroy mission. They were seeking out insurgents in Iraq. He will retire this year after twenty years of service with the rank of first sergeant, the second highest rank in the Army. We’re very proud of him. You know, when you’re going through that (Vietnam) you hope your kids don’t have to. Luckily, my son was on the Enterprise, so he never went ashore like his two boys did. It was quite an experience,” concluded Larry softly.

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